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Shooting reported at Connecticut elementary school
By Miguel Llanos, NBC News
State police were responding to reports of a shooting Friday at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., State Police Lt. Paul Vance told NBC News.
Don’t be shocked at this tragic event. This nation averages 87 gun deaths each day.
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Randall Gross Fri, Dec 14, 2012 9:31:05am |
I'm thinking that the figure "87 deaths per day" is bogus, do you have a link other than to the DB story that is the source of this? I know that the article says "CDC" but I can't find anything from the CDC that backs it up? The compiled gun death stats for the US from the FBI which include homicides, suicides, and accidental shooting are below:
2005 - 10,158 / 365 = 27.8
2006 - 10,225 / 365 = 28
2007 - 10,129 /365 = 27.75
2008 - 9528 /365 = 26.1
2009 - 9199 / 365 = 25.2
2010 - 8775 / 365 = 24
2011 isn't available in compiled format that I can find. What am I missing here, is the Beast author saying that 60 or more gun deaths are unrecorded or unreported in these stats?
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Destro Fri, Dec 14, 2012 9:37:27am |
re: #1 Randall Gross
Are you going to shop around until you find a source you don't think is "bogus"? DB is a valid mainstream source.
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Randall Gross Fri, Dec 14, 2012 9:40:56am |
re: #2 Destro
No, I'm asking where the figures come from because I can't find them. I think the author got the math wrong or something, & I don't want you to have egg on your face.
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Randall Gross Fri, Dec 14, 2012 9:43:49am |
I think the author is conflating "Deaths" with "injuries"
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Randall Gross Fri, Dec 14, 2012 9:44:18am |
See here:
[Link: www.politifact.com...]
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Destro Fri, Dec 14, 2012 9:52:38am |
re: #5 Randall Gross
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]
Interactive Map: The U.S. Shooting Epidemic
Roll over or tap the interactive map below to see how your state compares, or explore the data in the spreadsheet below. If we missed one, let us know in the comments or at @mhkeller and @BrianAbelson.
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Randall Gross Fri, Dec 14, 2012 9:52:54am |
Nevermind, it's about 85 - 87 -- that FBI stat line above is just homicides, even though author said it included suicides.
I really wish there were better compilations of these stats - it's just wrong that you have to build your own spreadsheet to figure out "total deaths by guns in the US" etc.
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Randall Gross Fri, Dec 14, 2012 9:54:02am |
[Link: www.cdc.gov...]
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